Fug the Show: Recap of “Lindsay” on OWN, season 1, episode 3


In which Lindsay manages to a) get production to UNPACK HER APARTMENT, b) scapegoat her assistant, and then c) scapegoat THE ENTIRE PRODUCTION, before Oprah gives her a talking-to that involves a few kindly bleepings.

We’ve decided what Season 2 is: OPRAH ADOPTS LINDSAY. Stedman is even a life coach, sort of — his Web site says he teaches Identity Development and how to relax and get a grip and stop being blinded to who you really are by all your freakouts (this is a very faulty paraphrasing), and Lindsay would be CATNIP for him. Make it happen, Oprah. Dina would probably give her to you for one car payment.

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  1. Jessica
    +32

    This is where I note that once, at the very beginning of my reality show career, the entire story department was asked if we’d be willing to come out on a Saturday and prep an entire giant meal that the Celebrity who was the center of the show on which we were working was hosting. In other words, instead of getting our day off, the celeb wondered if we’d come to her house and chop like 100 pounds of potatoes for her, I believe because she thought that if she was on camera — as this dinner would be — everyone who worked for production worked for HER. (None of us went.)

  2.  Angela
    +37

    She is a grown woman now, no question. BUT, her parents have *ruined* her. Ruined, I say. And the sadness of that is palpable. She needs to cut those leeches free and let Oprah run her life for a bit.

    • Meri
      +25

      I have to say, every time I read these recaps I wind up wanting to send my mom a fruit basket for enforcing bedtimes, making me earn my allowance, and just generally not being like the Lohan ‘parents’.

  3.  Stephanie
    +16

    I WANT her to get her life and brain back on track. It is so sad that she has learned to manipulate situation this way and no one seems to be in a position (poor Matt) or willing to tell her. Her present “coaches” seem more interested in tending to the delicate part vs also looking at her deep rooted destructive tendencies. Maybe she needs a Bullshit life coach? They just stand around with a buzzer…..

    •  angela
      +3

      Rather than a life coach, perhaps a life referee?

      I would watch the hell out of that show.

  4. marylou bethune
    +9

    If any one in another country, galaxy whatever watched this and decided to bomb us, I wouldn’t blame them. Venal, vile, sad and pathetic and yet, there the whole nasty family is getting paid by O, who should know better as she is the queen of owning one’s own behavior and all.

  5. Kate (another one)
    +13

    Oh God… the stuff Lindsay is saying/doing, especially that conversation with AJ where her excuses and objections aren’t even logically cohesive or internally consistent is exactly what a mentally-ill family member of mine is like. I hope she’s getting some therapy around all of her issues with relating to other people and how to communicate effectively and appropriately. It would make such a difference! Maybe it could even #saveMatt!

  6. Gine
    +17

    On the one hand, I do have sympathy for her because her parents are clearly awful and she exhibits SO many signs of a person who received zero proper support from the adults in her life during her formative years. But on the other, I know exactly how frustrating it is to have to deal with someone like this.

    If anyone can whip her into shape, though, Oprah can.

  7. Jenz
    +42

    Heather, this was an excellent recap.

    One of the hardest things for addicts (and similar life destructers) to realize (and come to terms with) is the fact that they are the one responsible for all the drama, negativity and chaos in their lives. Many don’t or won’t come to that conclusion because they don’t want to face the pain they know they caused or how much they’ve embarrassed themselves. Recovery Road is a long and daunting bitch. I hope Lindsay makes it all the way through.

    • greatwhitenorthchick
      +30

      THIS. Denial. Also a problem is all this time she has on her hands to do nothing but obsess about herself. This isn’t good for well-adjusted folks, much less for an addict/alcoholic.

      • JAM
        +8

        So much this. I have about zero destructive tendencies, and while I think it would be great to have more free time than my 9 to 5 allows, I can’t imagine having NOTHING to do like she does. I feel like instead of Oprah creating this reality show for her, she should have just put her to work. Like ACTUAL work (shadow a producer or director or something?). Or get her to volunteer her time somewhere or something.

        All that down time would drive anyone crazy, and I can’t imagine if you’re in the middle of recovery having nothing but time to think about it with no useful distractions.

        • Gina
          +5

          Nothing to do? She could try unpacking her own shit and putting it away. If you’ve ever moved, and I’ve done it A LOT, you know that moving does not = nothing to do. Plus, she has plenty of people to help her learn how to live life. Unlike the rest of us, who figure out (by having nowhere to sleep) that we have to buy a bed. I think the drugs and alcohol have fried her brain cells.

          • JAM
            +1

            I meant more in the “something meaningful that furthers her career or launches her into a new one and gives her a purpose in life” sort of nothing to do, not in the basic chores/actually move herself in kind of way.

            And I’m about to move again, so I know it’s not nothing. But that’s not exactly a fulfilling life direction or goal, which she desperately seems to need right now (and which we all need at some point).

            • JAM
              +2

              And my guess would be that more than the damage she’s done to her brain cells, her inability to care for herself in even the most basic ways without someone else’s help is probably more a product of being famous at a very young age and never having had to learn these things like the rest of us do.

              When everything is done for you and that’s all you’re used to and then that suddenly disappears? I could imagine that could easily throw her life view out of wack (whether it’s right or wrong or we approve of it or not).

          • Leah
            +3

            She HAS fried her brain cells, and if she is not yet a year sober and if there was more involved than only alcohol (which there is, according to Oprah’s questioning), then she is not yet totally clean and sober.

            I have LOTS of things to say about this. Jessica has some very valid opinions. Lindsay is displaying clasic early recovery behaviour.

            But, it all comes down to: The woman needs to be anonymous right now. She needs to be like this on her own and suffering the consequences of her own actions to be able to get better. And she needs to do it where no one knows her name. The principle of anonymity in the 12-step programs is there for many reasons. I actually fear for her life.

            • greatwhitenorthchick
              +1

              I hear ya, Leah. She does desperately need to gain some genuine humility in order to recover. I can’t help thinking she hasn’t hit rock bottom yet. It still doesn’t hurt enough to want to try something radically different.

    • Eurydice
      +5

      Yes, this was my reaction throughout. That she might not be drinking or taking pills or whatever, but she’s still thinking like an addict.

    •  jay
      +4

      this this this. And if they’re not ready for it, recovery is something that can easily be twisted into “nothing is my fault because I am an addict.”

  8. Meggiemoo
    +21

    Just looking at those massive piles of clothing is giving me agita. Maybe they need to bring in the hoarding people to help her sort and get rid of things. How can anyone feel serene with such a cluttered environment? And it seems like all they do is move the piles from place to place.

  9. Kristin
    +1

    I have felt uncomfortable watching this all along, but I don’t know if I can watch it anymore after how she treated Matt. I felt so bad for him.

    • jean
      0

      I won’t watch but he IS getting paid & he probably knew this job would be challenging. Did he really lift furniture?

  10. glee
    +35

    Another huge thanks for the recaps. The show is a wreck I can’t watch, but can’t ignore – filtered through Heather, it’s palatable. #saveMatt!

  11. Lynne
    +18

    I want to be a kind enough person to believe that everyone deserves help but I’m having trouble understanding why Oprah thinks Lindsay is worth it. She’s had a bizarre and twisted upbringing but isn’t it just possible that she keeps screwing up because she’s kind of an asshole? How many chances is she supposed to get?

    • Francesca
      +8

      Surely Oprah isn’t in this because she’s kind or caring–she’s hoping it’ll pay off big time. She doesn’t care if Lindsay is worth it, just as long as Lindsay is lucrative.

  12. Lily
    +3

    I think Oprah Winfrey is the only person who can effectively put Lilo in her place and tell her to get it together. Because Lindsay sure as hell isn’t about to talk back to her. Who would?

    I was questioning the timing of the release of Lilo’s ‘List’ (her 36-man Hollywood manifesto) last week and wondered if it was someone who was out to sabotage an already leaky ship. I figured it had to be a production member (they must hate her) or even #saveMatt himself. But now I wonder, in the harsh glare of the truth that nothing is happening for her, and that the reality is now out there for all to see, if Lindz released that list (real or fake, who knows) herself. Maybe there’ll be an upcoming episode showing her ‘anguish’ at the ‘betrayal’ and Oprah’s going to have to make another appearance to talk her off the ledge. That would certainly constitute ‘something happening’.

    • Heather
      +12

      I don’t know when they wrapped this, though — I mean, the stuff we’re watching now, they shot in September/October 2013. I suspect she released that list herself because the promo for the OWN show was so unflattering to her and somehow that was supposed to help.

    • Tiffany
      0

      I heard she was trying to get a book deal about her life, and the list was a way to tempt publishers. A promise of the dirt that she could tell, etc.

  13.  Carolina Girl
    +22

    Both Dina and Michael should be horse whipped for what they’ve done to this woman. Even if she was a major movie star, how is it possible to raise a child that cannot fold her own clothes? My life hasn’t always been sunshine and roses but one thing I can ALWAYS count on is that my mother loves me and will be honest with me. On Christmas Day I was feeling the stress of single motherhood and work pressures so I was being a major bitch to everyone. And my mother didn’t pull any punches. She said that I wasn’t the only person to have dealt with these issues and I needed to either get over it or get out. I love my family so I got over it. I feel sad the Lindsay doesn’t have that.

    And can someone tell me what a “Life Coach” is supposed to do? It sounds like someone to teach adults life and coping skills that they should have learned as they were growing up, but if that’s the case, why can’t this person teach her to recognize users and toxic people like her parents and that random hoochie her father sent to her?

    • Jenz
      +10

      That’s what rehab should have done, frankly. Teach her how to recognize toxic people and tell her it’s okay to distance yourself from your parents if they are the toxic ones. Just because they’re blood doesn’t mean they’re trustworthy.

  14.  Margot
    +17

    Oh god, just reading the descriptions of the scenes makes me tired and sad. What a shitshow.

    • Portia
      +8

      Poor Lindsey. She’ll most likely hang on in the business for a few more years until the last of her looks are gone — she was such a lovely young woman — and then she’ll be just another child-star burnout, forgotten until her obit shows up in the news, perhaps decades too soon.

      I hope she finds the strength and courage to sort herself out and stay sober. I’m not an Oprah fan by a long stretch, but she may be the voice this particular basket case needs to hear.

  15.  Mouse
    +12

    I FIRMLY believe she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

    Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-IV-TR, include:[1]
    Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
    Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
    Envies others and believes others envy him/her
    Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence
    Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
    Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior
    Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic
    Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
    Has trouble keeping healthy relationships with others, easily hurt or rejected,
    Exaggerates special achievements and talents
    Sets unrealistic goals for himself/herself

    Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, and an over-inflated sense of self-importance

    Check. Check. Check. Check. and so on.

    Having lived with my sister who is diagnosed with NPD – it is EXHAUSTING to be around.

    • glee
      +5

      Unfortunately, NPD is out of the DSM V – but she is certainly in that ‘cluster’ of borderline, histrionic and antisocial personality disorders.

      • Noire
        +7

        Even if you are a mental health professional, its ridiculous to try to “diagnose” someone by analyzing their public persona.

        •  Mouse
          +18

          I’m really sorry if I offended anyone by posting this – I certainly wasn’t meaning to truly diagnose her, just pointing out that she fits all the classic outlined symptoms of it.

          I suffer from depression and anxiety myself, have for years, and I certainly don’t take this (or any diagnosis of mental illness) lightly.

          :) Mea culpa.

          • Jenz
            +5

            You didn’t offend me at all! Noire is right though and I don’t intend to diagnose Lindsay. I am making a decent, educated guess. :)

          • Francesca
            +6

            I got what you were saying; as someone with a sister who has NPD, you’re as good a person as any to take a guess at what’s wrong with Lindsay, and it sure as hell sounds like you’re awfully close. Besides, as someone with lots of experience with people in the mental health field, professionals very often miss the mark in diagnoses. Calm down, Noire.

            • Jessica
              +15

              Let’s all give each other the benefit of the doubt that good intentions are had all around!

    • bambam
      +26

      I can’t even finish the recap. I just can’t do it. I created a whole bunch of drama in my life and ruined a whole bunch of very toxic relationships with a bunch of toxic people. At the time I didn’t know better. But it was my own fault and my own responsibility, and I finally got away from all that bullshit. Life is not perfect here in healthy, ordinary Real reality. But there is no freedom as good as the freedom you earn when you take responsibility for yourself, your actions, your mental and physical and emotional health. It’s almost impossibly difficult but it’s worth going through that crucible if just to get through to the other side.

      Just reading this recap makes me feel ashamed and crazy. I will not go back to that hell.

      • Heather
        +34

        You should never feel ashamed. You made it through. Oprah would tell you, and so will I, that you should be extremely proud of yourself for that and for how strong it makes you.

      •  Stephanie
        +8

        You should be proud that you are on the other side, determined to never go back. You sounds like you have battled your own demons and can see so much clearer. So glad for you (that sounds so cliche, but really! ) some people never quite get to the other side.

    • Sajorina
      +4

      I have a family member with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with whom I don’t have a relationship because it is unbearable, and I can assure you that Lindsay doesn’t suffer from this particular disorder by what I’ve seen and heard from her! I do believe she has Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder (which my ex-boyfriend has, so I know it very well): http://www.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/passive-aggressive-personality-disorder/overview.html

  16. shay
    +21

    I was so interested in this moment at the end of her scuffle with #SaveMatt where he told her he needed his five minutes and she replied “Well I need you to get me a bed to sleep on” and looked at her (useless) sober coach with this look. It’s like what mean girls do in high school where they manipulate someone near them into being on their side by including them against someone else. Like this “let’s be mean and laugh at this person” look. She is so good at being this person.

    • Heather
      +10

      Oh, God, I didn’t write that down. I’m going to go back and put that in.

    • Tiffany
      +3

      I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for her, for exactly that reason Shay. She treats other sooooo horribly. I have experience with people who have addiction issues, and that kind of behavior can’t be blamed on her parents or her addictions. She just seems to be a very unkind, selfish person.

  17. ceecee
    +9

    I’ve got some sympathy for #SaveMatt, but he voluntarily took a job as personal assistant for LIndsey Lohan. Did he expect things were going to go smoothly? I assume he’s already got a book deal.

  18. patricia
    +9

    Jessica & Heather…you BOTH need to quickly seal up that Stedman-Oprah-Lindsay-California-Ranch-Adoption-RealityTV thing. It’s pure genius.

    The only thing that Linds should do while she is getting sober is go away, disappear, move to a Mongolian poop heated hut, you get my gist. Every addict I have ever known that is now currently sober, disappeared for years (some of them 10+ years) and then came back.

    Maybe she needs to take a page out of the Bynes Bible?

  19. Alexandra Donald
    +16

    All Lindsay wants is for the film community to trust her, take her seriously and employ her. Doesn’t she realise that by pulling these kind of stunts and blowing off a freaking reality show, that film industry peeps will have their worst suspicions about her confirmed? Self-sabotage doesn’t even BEGIN to cover it.

    • Kristin
      0

      She knows on some level, because instead of just showing up or taking responsibility for not showing up, she’s blaming the harm to her reputation on the fact that the show exists. “Oh, no, this show is making me look bad!” Sister, you’re doing that your damn self.

  20.  Laucie
    +13

    I don’t watch this, and the recaps are more than sufficient for me.

    Unless the completed series has the completely unlikely resolution that Lindsay has started down the road to a useful, mature existence, then I will take the contrarian position that Oprah has no true investment in Lindsay.

    Oprah is making television. If Lindsay makes progress, Oprah is the hero. If Lindsay continues down her clueless, entitled path (even if she maintains her sobriety), well, Oprah doesn’t take the blame.

    Lindsay really didn’t need this latest round of (self)exploitation. Her parents are the worst, but doesn’t Oprah hold herself to a higher standard ?
    Pretty pathetic, all around.

    • HelenBackAgain
      +19

      Unless the completed series has the completely unlikely resolution that Lindsay has started down the road to a useful, mature existence, then I will take the contrarian position that Oprah has no true investment in Lindsay.

      I’ll take that position now. To paraphrase Khadijah on Living Single, “Oprah cares about three people: Oprah, Oprah, and Oprah’s wig-maker.” She is using Lindsay’s tragic existence in an attempt to prop up her failing network and make herself look good by showing off her outstanding skills as an interviewer, as if that’s the same thing as caring. It isn’t, and in my opinion, anyone who thinks this is even a little bit about Lindsay, for Oprah, has drunk way too much Oprah Kool-Aid.

      • Heather
        +13

        I don’t know that anyone thinks Oprah’s investment is anything but financial, but if LINDSAY believes Oprah cares about her on a personal level, and it helps, then go for it. Oprah knows exactly what she’s doing and saying to Lindsay, and that Lindsay cannot say no to her.

        • HelenBackAgain
          +3

          Good point!

        • Debra
          0

          thats the whole problem with oprah…if lindsay believes that oprah cares and finds out she doesnt isnt that counterproductive? oprah only cares about herself and this is a rotten thing she is doing.

      • Nancy
        +5

        I agree 100%. Winfrey is using Lohan, and that is a disgrace. Shame on her.

    • Francesca
      +3

      Very well put and very true, in my opinion.

  21. Ellen
    +8

    LOVE the Anne of Green Gables reference!

  22. HelenBackAgain
    +27

    Without having watched yet, based on quotes here alone, I think a major part of the problem is that, literally, no one has ever taught Miss Lohan how to live. She seems genuinely confused by the very idea of doing anything for herself. I’m surprised she manages to shower, she’s so incompetent.

    This is not an easy matter to self-teach, either, so I don’t blame Lindsay much. I mean, you have to start with basics such as which foods need to be refrigerated and which can go in cupboards. How to open a can. How the washing machine works. How to use a broom, fold and put away clothes, wet a mop, turn a stove on and off… things most of us learned as children. None of it can be taken for granted, with her. And it’s another disappointment with her so-called “sober coach,” that he isn’t thinking to teach her basic life skills: they are huge factors in recovery. The feeling of accomplishment thanks to being in control, even in very small ways, and the value of that, really cannot be overestimated. It’s why the Betty Ford Center makes such a big deal of daily chores. They ARE a big deal.

    I think Lohan is also a disordered personality in the psychiatric sense, and there’s a limit to how much can be done about that. But it would help her with everything else, if she understood the most basic practicalities of everyday life.

    Which, to bring it around to clothing: includes when you need to wear a bra! Such as, when other people can see you. ;-)

    • Nancy
      +7

      If her Life Coach and her Sober Coach and Oprah Winfrey gave one damn about Lohan except as a way to make more money, they never would have allowed or encouraged or agreed to do this show. Early sobriety is a very, very dangerous time for the sober person, and this type of show is going to put a huge strain on Lohan. That none of these vultures, including Winfrey, who is supposedly knowledgeable about everything in the world, thought about this is a disgrace.

  23. Maria
    +4

    This all makes me so sad. I can’t watch the show either, and I have been guiltily fascinated with the recaps, but it’s hard to watch even second-hand. I really want her to succeed it’s looking so bad for her.

  24. EAG46
    +3

    I can’t believe Oprah Winfrey swore on TV! Honestly I think Lindsey needs both a good “What’s WRONG with you, woman?!” shake and a hug. I don’t think she’s deliberately being a ditz or clueless. It appears that she just doesn’t know how to function. Maybe she needs time in a monastic retreat away from the modern world so she can learn how to do basic tasks and discover who she is as a person.

  25. ctkat1
    +7

    I have thoughts, but I had to pop in here to point out that the woman in the car with Oprah isn’t her assistant, it’s Sheri Salata, who is the president of OWN/Harpo Studios. She was the executive director of The Oprah Show and was featured in the Oprah: Behind the Scenes show that documented the last year of The Oprah Show.
    Sheri is awesome, and legitimately a big deal in show biz.

    • Heather
      +2

      Ah. Thank you!

    • Jocelyn
      0

      I loved Sheri on Behind the Scenes. If I had to choose between being Oprah and being Sheri, I would choose Sheri. She is Oprah’s truth-teller. I would love to set her loose on Lindsay.

  26. Dahlia
    +3

    My only comment: Dina’s hair! Ah ha ha ha ha ha!!

  27. Gypsy Danger
    +1

    Freaky Awesomeface is the best.

  28. Bambi Anne Dear
    +8

    I get the feeling that this show represents all that is wrong with the Western World right now.

  29.  Nurse Ratchet
    +6

    There are an awful lot of people out there who, like Lindsey, are products of broken homes, and dysfunctional parenting. Somehow we managed to grow up into productive, capable and independent adults. We were able to get past the chaos and learn the every day skills needed to live and work. I’m so sick of people who can’t own their shit and always have to blame it on someone.

    • shay
      +3

      I agree that though her home life and parents are truly the antithesis of healthy, she can’t keep being forgiven her behavior because of it. She is grown now, and without responsibility for her actions, she will find neither peace nor sobriety.

    • Tiffany
      +1

      I agree. I have known so many people who have overcome such incredibly challenging home lives. Human beings have the ability to reflect on their behavior and change it. However, this can only be done when they take SOLE RESPONSIBILITY for their actions and choices. I think she keeps her parents around as a back-up excuse for whenever she fails.

  30. Ann
    +4

    I am so glad I’m not able to see this ‘show’. Otherwise, I’d be forced to buy an expensive airplane ticket from Tasmania to New York so I could sort her out. Because there’s now way I could watch this and not feel that amount of frustration.

  31. ctkat1
    +6

    First, I love these recaps tremendously.
    Second, her wardrobe choices continue to be tragic and baffling, and I KNOW I saw a few bras being unpacked so I have no idea why she is refusing to put one on.
    Third, doing this docu-series was a huge mistake, and I agree that we are watching someone who deeply regrets agreeing to do the show. This is the final nail in the coffin of her career, both because she’s showing what a total disaster she would be to hire on set AND because the ratings have been poor- so she’s not enough of a draw to make it worthwhile. However, I don’t think she can afford to turn down a paycheck. This production is clearly paying for the apartment, paying for the sober coach and life coach (and assistant Matt?), and paying for tons of other things, I’m sure. It’s clear that Lindsay’s family still depends on her to stroke big checks and make big purchases for them. Once production ends, who pays for everything?

    • Heather
      +1

      I think this could have been REALLY GOOD for her. But I think in her efforts to be a shining example of how to turn things around, everyone jumped too quickly at the brass ring.

  32. The Reset
    +8

    It’s seriously so difficult to even READ this. God bless you ladies for watching this so I don’t have to. I just CANNOT with her denial-land.

  33. Nancy
    +3

    As screwed up as Lohan is, and I think she is still really screwed up, Oprah is using her for a TV show. It doesn’t make sense that she is doing this for Lohan. No, Saint Oprah is doing this for Saint Oprah. Ratings. Money. More money.

    I’m disappointed in her.

  34. MegoPachego
    +6

    RE: “crisis alchemist”: Yes. Thank you, Heather. I have a parent who is a crisis alchemist and an alcoholic. It has been unbelievably frustrating and difficult to watch her play the victim at a premium, kneecapping people into crippling guilt because she refuses to be wrong about anything. I haven’t watched any of these episodes and I think the recaps are enough for me. God knows I’ve experienced enough of this on the day to day to believe that Lindsay isn’t going to get better. By constantly changing her environment, she hopes to leave a damaged part of herself behind. By surrounding herself with people who are too self-interested to give her any for of meaningful support or constructive criticism and by marginalizing people with her best interest at heart, she can continue to fumble her way through the dark, hoping no-one will see how messed up she is.

    There comes a point at which you have to realize that you control your decisions and that you can learn from your mistakes. Being in control of yourself, taking care of yourself – it’s so empowering. I hope she gets to this point, but it’s not looking so promising right now, is it?

    • Jenz
      +1

      She is definitely not at that point – she is still thinking very much like an addict so either her rehab was just a front or she didn’t listen (I’m thinking the latter…sadly). She didn’t stay long enough in rehab.

      I grew up with a parent who is what they call a ‘dry alcoholic’.. an adult child of an alcoholic, which means they act like an alcoholic but without the alcohol. It was NOT pleasant and helped set the stage for my own descent into drama hell.

      Kudos to you for coming to such a liberating realization and double kudos for having the guts to stick with it.

  35. kay
    +5

    God, this whole docu series is just people enabling her. i don’t know how she is ever going to have another job is she acts like this. her production department is moving her in?! Wtf mate- she has got to get her shit together because this is insane

    • Sajorina
      +3

      She has worked while and since doing this “documentary” and, in my opinion, she’s done very well!

      • Heather
        0

        I think most of those jobs have been short guest stints; I agree that the behavior on display here will be troublesome if she applies it to a long-term film or TV show job.

  36. Sajorina
    +2

    I agree with you wholeheartedly, GFY Heather! Thank you for saying what I’m feeling! Also, she will not quit this show, no matter how much she complains about it, because she needs the money! Oprah is not the only one profiting from this “documentary”!

    Lindsay is not going to change unless she stops bullshitting herself! She needs more than “coaching” and AA meetings; she needs counseling and therapy! It is never mentioned if she is getting any and my believe is that she’s not! But it is critical that she gets it or I don’t think she’ll succeed in her sobriety long-term! She needs to be self aware of all of her problems (not just her addiction) and deal with them accordingly! I am rooting for Lindsay, but she needs to realize that addiction is just one of her problems and she needs the tools to work through all the other shit causing chaos in her life without the crutch of “coaches” and sponsors!

    I’ve suffered from Social Anxiety Disorder for over 15 years and it was crippling at first! I went to a doctor who prescribed meds that helped me relaxed in social situations, but, even though I struggled, I refused to go to therapy! And it wasn’t until I agreed to see a psychologist about 3 years ago and talked about what led me to feel anxious in social settings, that I was finally able to work through a lot of unresolved trauma that had caused PTSD, which prevented me from moving forward with my life! I don’t need a psychologist anymore because I learned the tools I needed to work on myself and I’m doing much better now because of the help I got, although this disorder will affect me forever! I wish Lindsay would accept that and stop blaming everybody else when things don’t turn out the way she wants them to… It is a painful process, but it can be done!

    • Jenz
      +5

      Good for you, Sajorina!! I have Social Anxiety Disorder as well and therapy really, really helped me get to where I am today. She really helped me find my personality, if that makes sense. Now, I’m usually the first one to speak up and I will definitely break the ice in a group.

      There is such a stigma regarding mental health, even in 2014. Please, if any of you are having a rough time, please, please consider a therapist. Will they fix you.. no, the only person that can ‘fix’ you is you… a good therapist will help you work through things, help you identify issues and most of all, give you the right tools to cope and the right tools to help you make changes in your life. If you can’t afford it, drop by your local community extension office or social services.

      Sorry btw.. mental health is a soapbox issue for me.

  37. Candyfloss
    +1

    Controversial opinion alert! As of yet, this show has not surpassed “Hey Paula” which currently stands as the ne plus ultra of ‘celebrity’ ‘reality’ shows. Lindsay is a self-destructive addict and is behaving like one so in that sense it is not shocking. Paula is absolutely BAT. SHIT. CRAZY. on that show. If you didn’t see it when it was on, I cannot urge you strongly enough to check out whatever clips of it are on YouTube. Lindsay would have to bring a lot of cray cray to the table to top Paula.

    • Ruth d
      0

      OMG. I was curious, so I looked it up on TWOP and a few clips online. NUTTY. Amazing.

  38. jean
    0

    I agree with someone upthread. She needs to seriously disappear for a few years. Go live for a while. Who has made public comebacks? Robert Downey, Drew Barrymore? Neither really disappeared. Mel Gibson has. I think. Do younger people even know how massive Mel was?

  39. Tamara
    +3

    Can we just get Iyanla to fix her life with some hard truth and get this shit over with…
    I’m annoyed that this is even on television. I don’t watch the show, I only read the recap because I don’t want to give my viewership point to this train wreck. I have no problems with people who actually try – but she’s not trying, she’s living on a world of excuses (that seems to be the REAL addiction she truly can’t give up). And going cold turkey on those “parents” of hers wouldn’t hurt either.

    • Kristin
      0

      Oh God, I love Iyanla so much that it’s embarrassing. I have to admit that I was pretty impressed with the way Oprah talked to Lindsay, but Iyanla would really make Lindsay “cut the bullshit.”

  40. Debra
    +1

    Oprah is the biggest vulture of them all. This girl is a trainwreck that needs to be in a place where she can get well and get her life back in order and no one will do that for her, including Oprah who is just in this for the ratings for her failing network. I think Lindsay will end up dead and everyone will say why did this awful thing happen and why did no one help her. She needs to get away from everyone.

  41. Elise
    0

    I started to read the recap because I thought it would be funny (since H and J are the funniest bloggers ever), but as I got further into it, in spite of the brilliant writing, it just made me sad. She is a sad person. The fact that her “life” or whatever is on TV is very sad. Also people like this make me so anxious I could barely read this without taking an Ativan.

  42.  Beatrix
    +1

    I enjoy these recaps as I can’t watch the show in the UK. Thank you.

    The impression I get is that LL is not sober and is not yet
    wanting to be sober. To me, it seems like she needs money in order to maintain her lifestyle, and that is why this show is happening.

    I am purely speculating obviously, but I think her parents are also not sober and also don’t want to be. I think they all appear to behave like addicts and each use the others’ addictions to continue justifying their own.

    It is very sad and I hope I am wrong.

  43. Lori
    +2

    I wish I could get a job as her Life Dictator. Not coach, dictator. I’d take her and a licensed therapist somewhere remote and get real. I fear that unless someone does that for her, she’s never going to get her act together.

  44. Susan,
    0

    Heather — the woman in the car with Oprah isn’t her assistant. That’s Sherry Salata — former Exec Producer of the Oprah Show and current OWN bigwig. I only point that out because it makes me wonder how real they thought shit was going to get at the Lindsay meeting that they had a network exec there with Oprah.

  45. ida
    0

    The compulsive endless clothes organizing is a direct side Effect of amphetamine abuse. There is nothing going on in her life because if you take enough of it you can happily do nothing but be Utterly content to keep fussing over something like without breaking for food or sleep or reflection until the tips of your fingers are raw. No joke. Her life is vapid because the high of long term amphetamine abuse completely replaces the need for anything else. I know. I think he cries when people point out that she should celebrate her sobriety because for a moment the reality of where she is got through the speed induced delusion and the authentic person buried somewhere in there is horrified by what she’s become.