I need to open this post with a caveat, which is that I generally dislike articles like this one, wherein one famous person chats up the other one. Usually, you are not going to get the same interview from a celebrity if you sit them down with another celebrity as you will when you pay a professional journalist to do the interview. You might think you’re going to get a good scoop — won’t one celeb make the other one feel more comfortable? — but the truth is that the celebrities will protect each other (honestly, as they ought), and punches will be pulled. Now, of course T&C — which is a publication I greatly enjoy! — is never going to run anything that’s not overtly positive about their cover star anyway, Billie Lourd is a forthright person in general, and Sarah Paulson brought a lot of her own personal zing to the story (it’s honestly as much about her as it is Billie, and she makes a funny joke about hipsters), so this all turned out way better than anticipated, but celebrity profiles are an art and I wish magazines would stop farming them out to other celebrities.

Caveat over! I think you will enjoy this, from La Paulson:

SP: What happened was I met [Carrie Fisher] at a dinner party. It was me, David Spade and his wife, the executive of a show I was on, your mother, and just a few other people. We bonded because I had finished an episode of Touched by an Angel with your grandmother [Debbie Reynolds] a few weeks prior. When we were leaving the party, we drove down Coldwater Canyon, and I was going to drive one way and your mom was going the other way, and she leaned out the window and said, “Do you want to come to a party?” I was like, “What?” And she said, “Do you want to come to Gore Vidal’s makeout party?”

Shouldn’t someone be writing a novel called Gore Vidal’s Makeout Party? Maybe Sarah Paulson can do it!

The story is essentially a somewhat meandering conversation. Not in a bad way, but in a way where I think a journalist might have…directed the flow of the chatter, so as to have a more linear piece for readers, more effectively. I did, however, also enjoy this tidbit from Billie:

BL: I remember a time when I was nine years old. I got in trouble in school for stealing something out of someone’s backpack, and [Carrie Fisher] picked me up and she sat me down in the car. And she turned to me and said, “Are you going to grow up to be an asshole?” And I started crying. She talked to me like an adult my whole life. I always think that now: I don’t want to grow up to be an asshole!

I think I can safely say that she does not seem to have grown up into an asshole! In fact, Billie Lourd seems extremely likable. You can read the rest of the interview here, and, in it, Billie is very upfront about her mother’s problems with substance abuse, talks about Debbie Reynolds being a big old gossip, and drops a variety of other bits and pieces I think you’ll enjoy. I will say that I like the cover. Billie looks sort of like a tough, sexy business 80s lady — which is one of my favorite personal aesthetics — and I appreciate that she has a face that’s so clearly hers. That sounds like a back-handed compliment, but it’s not: I think she is very attractive, but she’s also interesting looking, which is a powerful combination. In a world full of young famous women who often look very much the same, it’s a pleasant surprise to see someone who looks like herself.

PS: I hope those “modern swans” the magazine has promised us are actual waterfowl.

[Photo: Victor Demarchelier]